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 ![Jessica MacDonald and Jeff Macklis sit in the sun in front of a fountain](/sites/g/files/omnuum10026/files/hsci/files/macdonald_jessica_macklis_jeff_hsci_retreat_2019.jpg)

 

Panelist Jessica MacDonald catches up with Jeffrey Macklis, HSCI and HSCRB faculty member